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Meet Dr. Ghajar
Posted October 13, 1997
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Question:
The program on head injuries was fascinating, but I missed the first
part. In 1950, my mother, only 36 at the time, died of what was later
confusedly called both an aneurysm and a possible brain tumor. She was
in the hospital for only 2 weeks before she died, and had neither a CAT
scan or an MRI. (Perhaps neither was available in 1950 in Montana
hospitals.) Would your new method of monitoring cranial pressure be
used to save patients like my mother? Or are organic injuries different
from impact injuries in that they are less treatable?
Margo Warner
Modesto, CA
margo.warner@ccc-infonet.edu
Response from Dr. Ghajar:
In 1950 there were no CAT scans or MRIs. CAT scans were first used in
1975, before MRIs. What they may have done back in 1950 was either an
angiogram (where they inject dye into the arteries and then take an
x-ray) or a ventriculogram (in which they take an x-ray of the
ventricles of the brain to determine if there is a brain tumor). If she
had an aneurysm rupture, an angiogram probably would have picked it up.
The guidelines are essentially followed with patients who have an
aneurysm rupture or a brain tumor and are suspected to have high
pressure inside the head.
Question:
Dr. Ghajar,
Do the Guidelines contain information which could be utilized by rural
(paramedic level) prehospital E.M.S. providers, when prehospital patient
care time could exceed one hour?
Jake R. Hansen
Sandy, UT
jhansen@mail.xmission.com
Response from Dr. Ghajar:
The first three sections of the guidelines contain information that's
useful for pre-hospital EMS providers. More research has to be done on
the pre-hospital care since we're finding out that the pre-hospital care
in traumatic brain injury as well as stroke is crucial to getting a good
outcome in patients. I think in the future we'll hopefully see much
more emphasis on resuscitation, diagnosis, and appropriate treatment in
the ambulance.
Question:
On 10-19-95, I was involved in a MVA. It took 6 months before I was
diagnosed with a mild traumatic brain injury by a psychologist.
Physicians I had seen ignored symptoms such as nausea, dizziness,
fatigue, balance problems, emotional lability, sleep difficulties,
depression, etc., because I didn't think I had hit my head. They
seemed not to know that a concussion can happen from sudden
deceleration. They also did not recognize the sequelae or didn't think
anything could be done, since I am so "high functioning". Question:
What is being done to educate medical professionals about mild head
trauma? From reading your interview with NOVA, I see that severe head
trauma is also an area needing more attention. Why should we have to
wait 6 months for a diagnosis and then seek out help on our own? Is
there anything that we as patients can do? I've been trying to educate
the docs I see, one at a time. It could be a lifetime effort.
Mary Ann Yonki
WIlkes-Barre, PA
MAYonki@aol.com
Response from Dr. Ghajar:
There are 6 million head injuries every year in the United States and 2
million are seen in the emergency rooms and a half a million are
admitted to the hospital. 60,000 die from severe head injuries which is
a very high figure for a death rate. In fact, it's the number one cause
of death and disability in young people. Minor and moderate head injury
are seen much more frequently in the emergency room. Even a concussion
can cause significant disruption in a person's life.
Symptoms such as not being able to pay attention, short-term memory
difficulties, headaches, and dizziness are frequent complaints of
patients who have a minor head injury. A typical minor head injury is:
you hit your head, pass out, come to very quickly, and essentially
appear totally normal when seen in the emergency room. Some patients
are kept overnight after having a CAT scan of their brain to make sure
there are no blood clots and frequently those CAT scans are normal, the
patient is discharged, but may go on afterwards to have great
difficulties in day-to-day living. I think the most disabling part of
head injury is short-term memory difficulty and not being able to pay
attention to tasks long enough to complete them. There are sport
concussion guidelines and I refer you to Dr. Jim Kelly at the Chicago
Institute of Rehabilitation and his efforts in trying to educate the
public on this topic.
Question:
If a person suffers a head injury—such as from a fall—and it is
not possible to take them to a doctor right away, what should one do?
Is it safe to allow the person to go to sleep if that is what they feel
like doing, or should they be forced to stay awake?
Mary Chunko
Washington, DC
mc24a@nih.gov
Response from Dr. Ghajar:
The most important thing to do with anybody who is unresponsive from any
cause is the ABCs: airway, breathing, and circulation. I highly
recommend everyone in the public take a CPR (cardiopulmonary
resuscitation) course which will teach you the basics of establishing an
airway, making sure the patient is breathing, and checking on their
circulation. Beyond that, it's important to get qualified medical
personnel to do definitive therapy. Anybody who suffers a head injury
and has a period of unconsciousness should be taken to a hospital, be
seen by a physician, and get a CAT scan to make sure that there isn't a
blood clot or a more serious injury.
Question:
Dr. Ghajar:
My brother was taken to a public hospital on 9/29, after
being assaulted—head injury. He was combative so the doctor's
treated him with Ativan, Haldol, and Narcan, I believe. He immediately
went into a comatose state, violently moving only his limbs
involuntarily after receiving Ativan. They say there is no pressure,
swelling or bleeding in the brain and the scans and lumbar/spinal taps
were negative. I recently had him transferred to a private hospital,
Washington Hospital Center, where the care appears to be more
comprehensive and thoughtful.
My questions are:
Should a neurosurgeon monitor intracranial pressure even if the CT scan
show absolutely no problems?
Could a medicine called Ativan, then Haldol and Narcan put someone in a
comatose state if given to a head trauma victim to calm him down?
One doctor mentioned that it appeared as though my brother was without
oxygen for a period of time. Would this put him in a comatose state
where this limbs move constantly?
Any recommendations I can give the doctors on what they might look
into? They are puzzled.
Carole Sund
Washington, DC
csund@nea.org
Response from Dr. Ghajar:
I'm not clear from reading the medical history you've given about the
brother what the events were that led to his current condition.
Concerning your question, should a neurosurgeon monitor your
intracranial pressure even if the CAT scan shows absolutely no problem,
the guidelines recommend if the patient is in a coma from traumatic
brain injury and has a normal CAT scan, there are three other things the
neurosurgeon should check on. If two out of three of one of the
following conditions is evident, then it is recommended that the patient
have intracranial pressure monitoring: age over 40, motor posturing, or
a low blood pressure. However, if the patient does not meet those
criteria and has a normal scan, it would be up to the neurosurgeon to
decide whether the monitoring is appropriate or not. Ativan is a
valium-type of drug. Some of these medications may, in certain doses,
produce a comatose state. However, I cannot give you any definitive
answer because of the lack of facts in this case. Patients who have a
lack of oxygen can be in a comatose state. A qualified neurologist
should look at the history and the early facts to make a diagnosis and
some prognosis in your brother's case.
Question:
Once the guidelines were developed were they sent to every trauma center
in the U.S. or to neurosurgeons?
Karen Hansen
Downing, WI
khans@win.bright.net
Response from Dr. Ghajar:
The guidelines were sent to every neurosurgeon in North America in
April, 1996.
Question:
Dear Dr. Ghajar,
I would like to know what journal your data was published in.
Joan Logan
Lake Villa, IL
dlogan@wwa.com
Response from Dr. Ghajar:
There are over 3,000 research articles reviewed for the publication of
the guidelines. I would refer you to the guidelines themselves to get
the original references which you can obtain either from the American
Association of Neurological Surgeons or from the Aitken Foundation.
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