{"id":14299,"date":"2016-12-22T21:14:54","date_gmt":"2016-12-23T05:14:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/?post_type=blog&#038;p=14299"},"modified":"2018-02-07T15:10:26","modified_gmt":"2018-02-07T23:10:26","slug":"for-filmmakers-geeta-and-ravi-patel-love-is-a-family-affair","status":"publish","type":"blog","link":"https:\/\/dipsy.pbs.org\/independentlens\/blog\/for-filmmakers-geeta-and-ravi-patel-love-is-a-family-affair\/","title":{"rendered":"For Filmmakers Geeta and Ravi Patel, Love Is a Family Affair"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It was a long and winding road for sibling filmmakers Geeta Patel and her brother Ravi in the making of their film <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/films\/meet-the-patels\/\"><em>Meet the Patels<\/em><\/a>\u00a0\u2014 including not just the initial family trip to India, but many air miles racked up to attend matrimonial conventions and basically looking for love in all the wrong places while capturing Ravi&#8217;s quest for a partner.\u00a0The six-year journey to finish the film was worth it, for what ultimately became &#8220;home-movie-style filmmaking at its most boisterously entertaining&#8221; (<em>Hollywood Reporter<\/em>). The film makes its television premiere December 26 at 9pm on PBS&#8217;s <em>Independent Lens<\/em> [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/tv-schedule\/#schedule-local\">check local listings<\/a>].<\/p>\n<p>The film is &#8220;the unlikeliest of success stories,&#8221; wrote Kenneth Turan in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.latimes.com\/entertainment\/movies\/la-et-mn-meet-the-patels-review-20150911-column.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>LA Times<\/em><\/a>. &#8220;It&#8217;s a documentary that began as a home movie and ended up a warm and funny feature. It turned one man&#8217;s culturally specific journey into a lively and engaging universal story made with an unmistakable sense of fun. But <em>Meet the Patels<\/em>\u00a0is more than just a hoot. Its candor and empathy allow it to make keen points about love, marriage, family and the unexpected complications that American freedoms can bring to immigrant lives.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Mom and dad Champa and Vasant Patel steal the show with their good-humor and rib-nudging (and you can get <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pbs.org\/independentlens\/content\/meet-the-patels-parents-new-romantic-wisdom-from-champa-and-vasant-exclusive\/\">more romantic advice and anecdotes from them in these exclusive videos<\/a>), but Geeta (almost exclusively behind the camera in the film) and Ravi, an actor and producer, had their lives changed making the film, and certainly much has changed for them since. They checked in with us to give us a few updates on their careers (including a fictionalized feature), and how the making of\u00a0<em>Meet the Patels<\/em> brought their family closer.\u00a0<!--more--><\/p>\n<p><strong>Why did you first want to make <em>Meet the Patels<\/em>?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We made this film to explore and document the societal pressures of marriage in our first-generation Indian American family, and because we wished we had a film examining interracial situations like this when we were growing up. We hope audiences will see our story and remember that the greatest relationships take more work than we feel we can bear, and yet they lead to the greatest experiences and love of our lives.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>What were some of the biggest challenges you faced in making this film?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><em>Meet the Patels<\/em> took six years to make! The most challenging part of making this film was to allow the film to find its own voice and keep its authenticity. We tried to pay homage to the classics of the romantic comedy genre like <em>When Harry Met Sally<\/em>, but we also wanted to allow the film to become a romantic comedy unlike any we\u2019ve ever seen before, as it was also documentary cinema v\u00e9rit\u00e9. It was important for us to reference romantic comedies throughout the film, but we were careful so that it didn\u2019t feel contrived. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.imdb.com\/title\/tt0091943\/combined\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>Sherman\u2019s March<\/em><\/a> was a strong influence as funny v\u00e9rit\u00e9 documentary.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>How did making <em>Meet the Patels<\/em> (and its subsequent release) change your lives and careers?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>Geeta<\/strong>: This film really changed our lives. Our love and appreciation for our parents has grown immensely. We understand how hard it must have been \u2014 and still would be \u2014 to see their culture and tradition fade. We see how much they love us, and how much they are willing to compromise\u00a0so that we could be happy. We also see how brave and strong they are to try to understand us, and help us achieve our dreams and find love. We are really lucky. We want to be there for our parents, too. I also feel so much more aware of my emotions and actions. And I realize that love is more important than anything else. And that my family will always be there. And that I\u2019m really lucky to have these three crazy people in my life!<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>Ravi<\/strong>: They know us better now, too. In the end, we all have a much deeper relationship because we are all much more honest with each other. While we often disagree about things, we are mostly respectful of letting everyone be themselves. Everyone in the family is pretty loud and opinionated, so it&#8217;s also good when we don&#8217;t talk at all. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Other than that, I think, in getting to see our entire family as characters in a movie, we both got a chance to be truly grateful for how lucky we are to have such a wonderful family. What an amazing, once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to do this, and make your family closer. Oh, and mom and dad are famous now. It\u2019s exhausting. It\u2019s insane. I get calls every day from people wanting to cast them in all kinds of things. <\/span><\/p>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Meet the Patels Trailer | Independent Lens | PBS\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/amn0187fkIQ?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<p><strong>Do you have an especially favorite scene?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">There was a point in the movie when there was a lot going on and we knew we needed to have a talk, so we thought, why don\u2019t we go have this talk on a boat? One of our favorite documentaries is Ross McElwee\u2019s <em>Sherman\u2019s March<\/em>, and there\u2019s this beautiful scene at the most pivotal point in the movie when McElwee is sitting on a boat and floating down a river. This same shot gets used again in another movie called <a href=\"http:\/\/www.imdb.com\/title\/tt0296502\/combined\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>Always a Bridesmaid<\/em><\/a> made by McElwee\u2019s protege, Nina Davenport. So we set out to create a scene like that in <em>Meet the Patels<\/em>, and it turned out to have that same type of resonance as it did in those movies it was inspired by, though it definitely wasn\u2019t as picturesque! <\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Just a&#8230;few things have changed in your lives since the filming stopped. What updates can you share with us?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>Geeta<\/strong>: Well\u2026 we don\u2019t want to spoil the movie! But if you\u2019re really curious, you might be able to find out some things by doing some snooping around on the internet.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Geeta, you&#8217;ve been busy directing for television. What did you learn while shooting a personal film like <em>Meet the Patels<\/em> that helped you with your approach to filming TV shows?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>Geeta<\/strong>: Right before we started to film <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Meet the Patels<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, I had just bought this camera thinking, I&#8217;m going to learn how to be a good director by learning all the jobs \u2014 and one of those jobs is cinematography. So I&#8217;m just sitting here messing around with a camera in India and Ravi, mom, and dad and I are driving around a lot, and Ravi had just gone through this awful breakup that mom and dad didn&#8217;t know anything about, so he&#8217;s talking to me the whole time about it. As he&#8217;s going through this during our time in India it&#8217;s all on camera because I\u2019m sitting there filming everything. I just kind of filmed Ravi as I filmed mom and dad. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When we came back from India, we showed the footage to PBS. Ravi wanted to make something where it wasn&#8217;t about his personal life, it was more about what is happening in our community. Then PBS was like, &#8220;One, oh my god this is amazing. And two, the relationship between you and your brother is really strong.&#8221; <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So then we found ourselves in an intimate documentary, which is not what either of us wanted. But we both thought about it, and even though it is quite a sacrifice and inconvenience to tell the story of your own family, especially being from a private, difficult culture to document, I wanted to make the film that I wish was around when I was going through this. So that feeling overpowered the sacrifice and inconvenience. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">At the same time, we didn\u2019t want to go too far with it. The reality television way of doing things would be that the moment someone is about to cry you bring the camera out. We love our parents and so there were times we didn\u2019t feel comfortable doing that. We didn\u2019t want to hurt the family. Very early on we had decided that the family comes before the film. We wrestled with it. Another thing is that we love radio and Ira Glass (and <em>This American Life)<\/em>\u00a0is a huge inspiration. We actually met with him. We spent time recreating the story to Ravi\u2019s storytelling and then we added the animation. Our goal was that the animation was not going to be gratuitous or boring. And I think the animation added a whole new dimension to the film. So I learned that putting your own restrictions like that can actually lead to something really great.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I also learned that if you are a director, learn the business side. This is freedom.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>[custom_html]<\/p>\n<p><b>Ravi, you&#8217;ve had a very diverse career\/background, too but had been in front of cameras for awhile before <em>Meet the Patels<\/em> was released. \u00a0Did making that film change how you see the acting business? Did it change how others saw you?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>Ravi<\/strong>: Yeah. My first role was in <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Transformers<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. I didn\u2019t have a head shot. I didn\u2019t know who Michael Bay was. And the only impression I could do was this Indian call-center guy, and so those were the sorts of roles I got cast in. But those roles really catapulted me. Before I had a career, I would have never been in a place to do a film that creates an important dialogue like <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Meet the Patels<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. After <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Meet the Patels<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, I think people started casting me in more roles because I was funny and not because I could do an accent.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I also got to be a director on <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Meet the Patels. <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">As an actor, you are one part of telling a larger story. As a director, you get to put the whole thing together, influence every frame. I LOVED that. \u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Oh, and I learned that being an actor is not the toughest career out there \u2014 it&#8217;s documentary filmmaking.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>Given all that, do you have any advice for aspiring filmmakers?<\/strong> <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">If you\u2019re on the creative side, learn the business side. Talk to other filmmakers. Read interviews. Ask lots of questions. Learn as much as you can every step of the way, so you can understand the jobs of everyone you work with and when your agent, publicist, lawyers, etc. tell you what to do, you can have a better idea whether or not to act on their advice. Learning the business side is freedom. <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><pullquote class='left'>&#8220;I never thought I could be this close to my family in a way far above what I ever imagined. And I think that\u2019s what love is \u2014 not stopping.&#8221;<\/pullquote><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">After we finished the film, we tested it in front of various audiences to find out what they responded the most to about the film. We discovered that the audience responded best to the comedy aspects and the feel-good tone of the movie, and we studied similar films in the same vein to discover how they marketed and distributed their films to discover how to get our film out there.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Trust your gut. There\u2019s no foolproof way to be successful in making and selling a film. Ultimately, this is your film and your story. Tell the story through your lens, your point of view. There are a ton of \u201cexperts\u201d who will tell you how to sell your film, but you are the one who sets the bar for how people look at your film.<\/span><\/p>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Meet the Patels | How Did You Fall in Love? | Independent Lens | PBS\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/zhQrb2WPfu8?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<p><b>Can you tell us anything about the<em> Meet the Patels<\/em> feature film you&#8217;re working on? Is it surreal to fictionalize your own lives?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>Ravi<\/strong>: Yes! It\u2019s not going to be a direct remake, it\u2019s just going to be a story based on the documentary. At this point, it might be entirely different. I\u2019m beyond excited to work with Fox Searchlight. We want to do what we did with the documentary, which is just be super loose in how we shoot it, do all these experimental things. All we know for sure is we\u2019re going to cast mom and dad.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Any other projects you&#8217;re working on or will be that you would love to share?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>Ravi<\/strong>: I\u2019m a founder and co-CEO of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thisbarsaveslives.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">This Bar Saves Lives<\/a>. For every bar sold, we give a packet of life-saving food to a child in need. Our bars are now in all Starbucks in California and we just gave away our millionth packet of life-saving food.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Lastly, any single bit of romantic advice you learned over the time <em>Meet the Patels<\/em> took place that you&#8217;d pass on to single folks? And to parents of single people for that matter?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>Geeta<\/strong>: The film is really Ravi\u2019s relationship with his parents. And we embraced that. I think when we talk about love, yes, we\u2019re talking about what love is in the context of being single, but I think we realized that love is: 1) making a choice, and 2) love is trying. That\u2019s the biggest thing that I learned. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I never thought I could be this close to my family in a way far above what I ever imagined. And I think that\u2019s what love is \u2014 not stopping. You have to keep trying to get those knots to go away and keep believing. It is such a complicated process \u2014 spiritually speaking. That told me what love is. Also, we have learned that for us, sharing values is important, but sharing cultural backgrounds is not.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>Ravi<\/strong>: What Geeta said.<\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>Bonus! Ravi and Geeta&#8217;s\u00a0favorite films:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Ravi<\/strong>: <em>The Shawshank Redemption, Top Gun, Good Will Hunting.<\/em><br \/>\n<strong>Geeta<\/strong>: <em>Bicycle Thief, Pretty Woman, The English Patient.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.wnyc.org\/story\/patel-meet-patel\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Listen to WNYC interview<\/a>, &#8220;Patel Meet Patel&#8221;:<\/p>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.wnyc.org\/widgets\/ondemand_player\/wnyc\/#file=\/audio\/json\/694866\/&amp;share=1\" width=\"100%\" height=\"130\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It was a long and winding road for sibling filmmakers Geeta Patel and her brother Ravi in the making of their film Meet the Patels\u00a0\u2014 including not just the initial family trip to India, but many air miles racked up to attend matrimonial conventions and basically looking for love in all the wrong places while 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